“It’s not lying, it’s
flirting.”
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
I have decided to skip blogging about my dating life this
week and share this little story to you:
Last Friday I was waiting at a pub for Mr. Suit,as he has
just returned from his trip to Africa. A
tall, dark and yes handsome man approached my table. He asked if I was waiting for friends, which
of course I was, what else would I be doing holding down a table at a busy pub
on a Friday night? Regardless of my
response he asked if he could sit with me until they arrive. So I agreed on the condition that when they
arrived he would have to go as I wanted to hear about Mr. Suit’s trip and had
not seen him in a long time. The man sat
down and we chatted for a few moments.
He sat across from me at the table.
Then he asked if the jacket beside me is mine which was laying taking up
the seat beside me in the booth. To
which I responded it was, and then he made this bold move. He walked over, moved my belongings and sat
extremely close to me. This is when we
got on the topic of employment and he told me he is a dating coach. I have to admit at first I thought he was
full of shit, so I called him out on it asking if this was a line to pick up
women. To this question he produced not
only a business card but also a pupil that had been watching us. Hilarious.
Shortly after this my friends arrived, he asked for my number and I gave
it to him because I did not want him to fail in front of his student. I honestly never thought I would hear from
him again until he texted me last week asking me out for a drink but life got
so busy that I did not have time to reply, I do not think he cares too much
about one random woman when I am sure he is swimming in a sea of them.
The End
Oh, we both lived happily ever after never seeing each other
again...Would have been nice to write but this week he messaged me asking me if
I had become a lesbian, to which I had to laugh at. I had actually just gotten very busy with
work and the Sun Run that I had totally forgotten to respond. Seeing as how I was not interested and he
meets a lot of women I did not even think about it. But, to question my sexuality because of this
fact made me fully realise I have made the right decision. Also, his reaction may be connected to self
esteem which I discuss below. Needless
to say I did respond this time and told him I was just not interested in a
drink but was still interested in men.
While I am not the type of woman who could ever date a man
in this profession it still got me to thinking.
Can the art of picking up women be taught? Are all women so cookie cutter impressions of
one another that one set of skills can successfully be applied to all of
them? But, primarily it got me to really
ponder how these skills are transferable? Luckily for me I have a business card of a man
in such a profession and limitless resources to research this idea at the click
of a mouse. The following are three
principles taught in how to pick up women laced with my commentary. ALSO, at the end of this week’s blog is a
question for you readers. Please submit
your answers to my email victoria_redlon@yahoo.com
and the most thought provoking answer will win a prize! Thanks.
1)
"Natural Game.’ For
anyone not familiar with this term it just means speaking to women without any
tricks or gimmicks.”[2] Natural game is essentially a theory that men
do not need all the bells and whistles of the pick-up artist scene; it insinuates
that men in their natural state are able to easily pick up women. Some theorists of the pickup world think that
this theory is the best solution in order to “Learn how brutal honesty
can get you more action in the bedroom with women. Stop trying to "go
under the radar" and stop using deceptive tactics to get women to sleep
with you. Unburden
yourself, become completely honest and open AND get much better results with
women. Learn how to turn
women on with complete honesty
and never find yourself having to make up stories again.”[3]
The honesty of this tactic sounds incredibly promising; however, the motivation
behind this statement makes me flinch. ‘Unburden
yourself?’ Basically when I read the
above sentence I see a lot of male dominated promises for other men, it does
not say, be honest to build an honest foundation with women. It does not say be honest because being
honest is the best thing you can be for the woman you are interested in. It also does not say be honest because women
respect honesty. It merely emphasizes
that men should be honest for their own benefit, so basically they do not feel
any guilt towards wanting to bed women.
Using honesty as a ploy to seduce women sounds just a scummy as using
lies to reel them in.
“By believing in our nobler nature, women have the amazing
power to inspire us to live up to it. This is one reason why men tend to fear
commitment.”
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
Another humorous take on the natural game theory is bluntly
said by LBD (a very famous pick up artists from the novel The Game) he says “This
past weekend, I led a Love Systems boot camp in Seattle and one student asked
me about the latest of these fads, which he called ‘natural game.’
According to this, you don’t need any of the best word-for-word scripts,
you don’t need the step-by-step structure from
Magic Bullets, you can just go out and be yourself
and have fun and women will come to you. I told him that this is what
most of us were trying to do before we discovered dating science, that
it didn’t work back then, and that it sure as heck won’t help new people get
better now.”[5]
Truth. We are accustom to men working
their lines on us; we have grown familiar with game. In fact we expect men to have good game or
forget it. Personally telling a man to
toss aside his game and just ‘be’ is not a good approach. Also, I am not convinced men with game are
dishonest. I have been approached by men
many different ways, some of them highly affective, some of them the opposite
but there is a certain level of knowledge that men will run their game on
you. ALL women know this. What women now have come to learn is to pick
the man with the game that most attracts her.
Even in nature male animals like the peacock, fiddler crabs, and frogs
use their given gifts to impress their female counterparts. To which the female selectively chooses from
the best displays. Why should women be denied
the natural allure to win her heart? Men
should impress women with their speech, and they do not need to lie to do
this. But, they certainly do need to run
a little game. It is the effort in the
chase that makes a woman feel special. If
men begin to put no effort in, women will seek out those men that do (or
perhaps women) leaving the men that have not only applied natural game theory,
but also paid for it alone in the dust.
“If there was anything I'd learned, it's that the man never
chooses the woman. All he can do is give her an opportunity to choose him.”
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
2)
The “Physical Lie Detector” is a theory that is also
taught by pick up artists that attempts to teach men how to read body
language. BRAVO! How to read body
language is an extremely good lesson to learn, not just for men but for all
people everywhere. In particular the cues
that suggest that you are too close for comfort, or that we are not interested
in conversing with you. The “Physical
Lie Detector” also came with this warning: “Warning: sometimes ignorance is bliss. After gaining this
knowledge, you may be hurt when it is obvious that someone is lying to you. The
following deception detection techniques are used by police, forensic
psychologists, security experts and other investigators.”[7] By no means am I saying that the
professionals that use this type of system are not using it accurately. But, these individuals ARE professionals who
along with this set of skills, have extensive knowledge. I have to be honest, when I read the articles
explaining how to detect lies I was more confused than when I began. We must keep in mind that each individual is
different, one article stated eye roaming as an indication of deception. Let me tell you I often look around while
chatting because I am easily distracted and sometimes feel uncomfortable with
direct eye contact. I can be telling
someone what I ate for breakfast while my eyes roam and it has absolutely
nothing to do with lying. “Detecting
lies is extremely difficult. It’s more of an art than a science. People can
fool polygraph tests, so they can definitely fool you. There is no single
behavior that indicates deception 100% of the time. Rather, detecting lies
requires observing multiple behaviors and analyzing them using the surrounding
context. Also, just because a person shows some of the signs we list below; it
doesn’t necessarily mean they’re lying, just that they might be lying.”[8]
Furthermore, Malcolm Gladwell discusses
this school of thought and how incredibly hard it
is to master in his book Blink. Gladwell discusses that even through the
process of himself studying human interactions he was still only able grasp a
small amount of what is truly being told by body language. This suggestion makes me question the ability
of anyone to easily and quickly teach someone the art of the physical lie
detector test. Along with this challenge
it is farfetched to then expect them to use their limited knowledge in a
crowded, loud pub while intoxicated.
Therefore while I do think that the art of picking up women is highly dependent
on reading body language. I highly doubt
that a weekend with a person who only understands the tip of the ice berg on
such matters is the answer. The only
answer to truly understanding the woman you are interested in is to get to know
her. Once you do, you will be able to
read her like a book.
“In fact, every woman I met seemed disposable and
replaceable. I was experiencing seducer's paradox: The better a seducer I
became, the less I loved women. Success was no longer defined by getting laid
or finding a girlfriend, but by how well I performed.”
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
3)
Confidence: building confidence to help men pick up women
is a great idea. But, make sure you do
not create a monster. One time I was
speaking to a very kind hearted friend of mine about this and she said she had
befriended a woman that had very low self esteem. My friend said that she took the woman out
with her, complimented her, and tried to increase the woman’s self esteem. This worked very well and they had a great
time together going out. Until one night
a man complimented the woman with who had had low self esteem and instead of
saying “Thank you” she turned around with attitude and said “I know.” What an ugly way to accept a compliment! That is when my girlfriend said she realized
she created a monster. There is a major
difference between confidence, which is very sexy and arrogance which is very
scary! I will be the first to admit I
have a really hard time identifying between the two and am more often than not
attracted to the latter. I love men that
ooze self confidence, but that does not mean these men are good in relationships. But, I fully agree with teaching healthy confidence
as it allows men to approach women and it also makes them better lovers. This got me really thinking about the
confidence of a man who needs to pick up different women every night. I began to think about a man who thinks that
his success is so noteworthy that he teaches other men to have meaningless but apparently
honest sex with as many dates as possible.
Are these the actions of hubris? Or are these the actions of low self
esteem within themselves? Is a dating
coach compensating for his lack of confidence with women? The whole concept confuses me.
QUESTION: What do you think of dating coaches/pick up
artists? Do you think that they are able
to teach men the right way to approach women?
If so what do you consider to be right?
Thanks again for reading! XO
“That's when I started to
leave it behind. I realized that I got my entire validation from women. Women
became like gods to me, but false gods.”
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
― Neil Strauss, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
[3]
Ibid.
[4] https://www.google.ca/search?q=pictures+of+men+and+women&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-Hd1UcY-zsGLAuG9geAD&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=812&bih=494#imgrc=wOqZeVc7H3oQ0M%3A%3B55vdy2-2DO1YCM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.zootpatrol.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2010%252F09%252Fmenvswomen2.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.zootpatrol.com%252Findex.php%252F2010%252F09%252Fmen-and-womens-different-interpretations-of-the-same-words%252F%3B340%3B309
[6] https://www.google.ca/search?q=pictures+of+men+and+women&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=-Hd1UcY-zsGLAuG9geAD&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=812&bih=494#imgrc=402A3Y-V8DgdPM%3A%3BxuMkJk2C-BBWVM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fthesocietypages.org%252Fsocimages%252Ffiles%252F2008%252F12%252Fsc00fd48ec.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fthesocietypages.org%252Fsocimages%252F2008%252F12%252F07%252Fif-only-men-and-women-could-understand-each-other%252F%3B1446%3B1495
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